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MEGADETH’s DAVE MUSTAINE On DAVID ELLEFSON: ‘It Was Hard On Me Letting Him Go’

MEGADETH‘s Dave Mustaine says it was “laborious” for him to fireplace David Ellefson greater than a 12 months in the past, simply days after sexually tinged messages and specific video footage involving the bassist had been posted on Twitter. On the time, Ellefson launched a press release on Instagram denying all social media chatter that he “groomed” an underage fan. He additionally filed a report with the police division in Scottsdale, Arizona alleging illegal distribution of sexually specific photographs of him by unknown offenders.

In a brand new interview with Rolling Stone journal, Mustaine touched upon Ellefson‘s newest exit from MEGADETH, saying: “With all the things that had taken place over the previous, 10, 20 years with my relationship with our previous bass participant, it simply grew to become time to… it is so uncomfortable for me to speak about. It was laborious on me letting him go. And I am happier now than I’ve ever been.”

Mustaine ended up hiring TESTAMENT‘s Steve DiGiorgio to re-record Ellefson‘s bass elements on MEGADETH‘s upcoming album, “The Sick, The Dying… And The Useless!”, as a result of he’s “a kind of simply actually amazingly gifted gamers,” Dave informed Rolling Stone.

Final month, MEGADETH introduced bass participant James LoMenzo as a everlasting member of the band. LoMenzo was MEGADETH‘s bass participant within the mid-2000s and just lately stepped again in as a touring member for “The Steel Tour Of The 12 months”.

“It is a completely different camp now, and I am actually joyful,” Mustaine informed Rolling Stone. “I really feel completely invigorated. I really feel like I’ve hit my stride, like my finest years are forward of me proper now.”

Within the police report that Ellefson filed in Might 2021, he admitted that he had been exchanging sexual textual content messages with a Dutch teenager, who captured a video of a number of of their digital “masturbating encounters” with out his consent and shared them with associates. (Based on Ellefson, the lady was 19 on the time of their first digital sexual encounter.) Ellefson, who lives in Scottsdale, first grew to become conscious of the video on Might 9, 2021, when the declare “David Ellefson of MEGADETH is a pedophile” appeared on Instagram. Ellefson informed police he was notified on Might 14, 2021 by MEGADETH that the band can be parting methods with him. Three days later, he was fired.

Throughout an October 2021 look on SiriusXM‘s “Trunk Nation With Eddie Trunk”, Ellefson opened up in regards to the circumstances that led to his dismissal from MEGADETH, saying: “I ran towards the bullets and handled it straight away. The evening [the messages and video were leaked online], a few folks stated, ‘Hey, do not say something.’ Specifically, the MEGADETH camp did not need me to say something. However my authorized [advisers] stated, ‘Hey, I feel it is best to say one thing. I feel some folks have carried out some actually shitty issues right here and made some false allegations about you, and you’ve got each proper to defend your self.’ And I did. In the end, that led to my dismissal from MEGADETH. However I’ve each proper, as anybody does, to defend your self, particularly when someone is making false allegations about you want that. So I handled it that evening, and fairly truthfully, that was it — it was over, and it was actually type of carried out. However then, because the MEGADETH camp particularly jumped in and had addressed it — and never that they should not, however they did. That fairly shortly led to them making the choice to half methods with me and to maneuver away from it.

“We had initially talked about doing a joint assertion of types, and, in fact, that was not what occurred,” David continued. “So I used to be upset in most likely the best way it went down.

“Sarcastically, issues are nice between [me and MEGADETH]. We parted methods, they usually took their highway. And there is not in poor health will between us, imagine it or not. And I feel any fights and people issues, that was 20 years go — lawsuits and all that crap.

“Look, they moved ahead [with ‘The Metal Tour Of The Year’],” Ellefson added. “I wanted them nicely in my [original] assertion to them, and I imply it. It is a group I helped type nearly 40 years developing right here for the band. And the songs which are on the radio that I see come up are songs that I had a participation in, and we constructed a giant legacy. I nonetheless take into account them household, and my DNA is throughout that. I do not assume you construct one thing of that dimension collectively after which out of the blue you are simply out and that is it.”

Ellefson additionally talked in regards to the assertion Mustaine — who fashioned MEGADETH with Ellefson in 1983 — launched on Might 24, 2021 saying the bassist’s departure from the band. Within the assertion, Dave stated: “We don’t take this determination evenly. Whereas we have no idea each element of what occurred, with an already strained relationship, what has already been revealed now is sufficient to make working collectively inconceivable shifting ahead.” Requested if he was conscious of any pressure between him and Mustaine and whether or not he “felt just like the ice was on the brink of break once more,” Ellefson stated: “I didn’t. I feel one of many issues — and this most likely began 20 years in the past, when MEGADETH was disbanded in 2002 after which put again collectively in 2004, it was very clear in 2004 that it was gonna be reframed round Dave unilaterally, 100% being the boss and working the present. Gone had been the times of the partnership, the ’90s, the place it was me, Nick [Menza], Marty [Friedman], Dave — type of ‘the 4 horsemen experience once more’ type of mentality… That day was carried out; it was not gonna be that anymore. And that is the place we fell aside in 2004 and I wasn’t with the group via these years. Coming again to it in 2010, now we’re a couple of years older, [with] somewhat extra maturity within the scenario, realizing that we’re higher collectively, that despite the fact that it isn’t, on paper, a partnership, there is a type of visible partnership — the optics of it are type of, like, ‘Yeah, this appears higher as MEGADETH with me and Dave collectively. We’re a kind of bands that, though Dave is the quarterback and the quarterback nonetheless performs, the general feeling and likability and I feel all the things about it simply feels higher when it is Dave and Dave collectively, as a result of we have been collectively from the start for therefore a few years. And I feel that labored very well for the final decade. On the identical time, Dave and I are grown males, and we’ve opinions. It isn’t the factor the place it is simply Dave and three facet guys when it is me and the band. And apparently, they did not need that anymore — they needed it to not be that. And I am unable to converse for them, ‘trigger I do not know. I am not attempting to place phrases in anyone’s mouth about that. But it surely simply appeared like ‘there’s simply an excessive amount of historical past right here, and let’s simply half methods now and let MEGADETH transfer ahead on a brand new day with type of a brand new marching order.’ So fairly than combat it, which is what occurred 20 years in the past, ‘trigger we had been dissolving a partnership at that time, we’re not dissolving a partnership [this time]. It is, like, ‘Hey, we do not need you right here. There’s the door. Do not come to work on Monday.’ So, it is, like, ‘Okay. Fantastic.’ And that is simply how I considered it, and that is how I view it at present. I haven’t got any bitter grapes over it, and I am not bitter about it.”

Ellefson informed “Trunk Nation” host Eddie Trunk that he initially “did not even know what” the phrase “grooming” was, including that he “had no concept” in regards to the which means of the time period consultants use to consult with the actions that sexual abusers take to get near and acquire the belief of these they’re concerned about. “And any allegations of something being unlawful [are false],” he stated. “There was nothing. And that is why I instantly employed a legal lawyer. I went proper to the police division. And only for the report, the unhealthy man would not go to the police division. Okay? So, simply to be clear. The man who did not do something fallacious, he goes to the police division. That is why I went to the police division and filed a police report and allow them to cope with it.

“I feel there was a giant concern of — there’s at all times this discuss of cancel tradition and all these items,” he continued. “And I used to be, like, ‘Pay attention, that was not me.’ And I had each proper to face up towards that and defend myself towards it. And I simply turned that over to the legal professionals and police division and allow them to cope with it, they usually did.”

David additionally addressed his determination to step away from social media and cease doing interviews for a couple of months whereas issues settled, each personally and professionally.

“Look, definitely time heals wounds in this stuff, which is sweet,” he stated. “And that was the factor — I used to be, like, look, I did not do something fallacious; there was nothing unlawful right here; and also you let it go. And for me to simply type of take a while away and go darkish. I acquired off all social media. I’ve one Fb account that I do not even run, only for type of skilled functions and all the things, however I am off of that. And I feel that helps.”

When Trunk introduced up the purpose that the one obvious “illegality” on this case lies with the one that really leaked the above-mentioned video, Ellefson stated: “100%. That is why I did not rent a civil lawyer to sue folks for 1,000,000 bucks. I employed a legal lawyer, and what they do is prosecute to place folks in jail. ‘Trigger these had been the crimes. You possibly can’t simply go do shit like that — put stuff on the market, content material — and never have a penalty. That is the crime. And I feel folks simply assume they will — and never everyone; I am not saying all folks — however there’s a faction that they simply assume that that could possibly be simply carried out as a joke and for enjoyable, and it may’t. In fact, it is the Web, so folks reside in overseas international locations; there’s all these items. That is why the very best factor, I feel, is to, initially, simply get away from these platforms as a result of that could be a breeding floor for that society to do this.”

Requested by Trunk if there are nonetheless ongoing authorized proceedings within the case, Ellefson stated: “It has been resolved. We took the steps mandatory, walked via that course of, which was essential to do, and that is all landed and, as of now, that is nice.”

David, who studied for a 12 months at Concordia Lutheran Seminary in St. Louis a decade in the past, additionally needed to deal with one particular “false impression” about him that has been repeatedly raised within the months since his masturbation movies had been posted on-line. He stated: “There is a false impression that I am a pastor. I’m not a pastor. I did a 12 months of seminary, they usually made it actual clear, ‘In case you are gonna proceed at seminary, it’s good to give up MEGADETH,’ so I give up seminary to be in MEGADETH. And I bear in mind telling my mother that, when she was nonetheless alive — God relaxation her soul. I stated, ‘Hey, I withdrew out of seminary,’ in good standing, to proceed being in MEGADETH. And he or she was really very upset. She was, like, ‘You already know what? MEGADETH is holding you again. That is too unhealthy. It is best to have stayed in seminary.’ Seems possibly I ought to have listened to my mother; I do not know. [Laughs] In fact, mother needs the very best for you.

“Who is aware of? No matter,” he continued. “I am a rock and curler, man. I am a founding member of MEGADETH. It is who I’m. It is what I do. It is a part of my life. It is a part of my existence. So I’ve no regrets about any of that. However I feel that was a false impression. Individuals began throwing that round. And so I’ve by no means been an ordained pastor. Sure. I did discover that world for a time.”

David went on to say that there’s a notion that individuals of religion should set a better customary of how they reside with and deal with others. “It is nearly such as you’re this entity that is floating up towards the heavens: ‘Oh, he is such a beautiful man. He is a person of religion. He is acquired his household. After which this occurs.’ It is, like, ‘What the hell is that this?’

“I imply, look, admittedly I’ve form of skilled the general public to assume that I am one of many extra well-behaved rock stars on the market, and for essentially the most half I’ve been,” he continued. “However on the identical time, and this is not to say something different than simply, oops, shit occurs. That’s what it’s.

“Within the season that I used to be away from MEGADETH, within the 2000s, I acquired concerned in different issues in church, and elevating my household, and blah blah blah, this stuff, and so by nature, I type of grew to become extra of a suburban homebody — the dad man,” David added. “After which I went again to MEGADETH in 2010. And the factor is to attempt to reconcile that you just’re not one man at residence and one other man on the highway, that you are the identical man. And I feel for anyone who spent any time on the highway — whether or not you are a rock star, a touring salesman or whoever you could be — that is the problem, and it is a actual problem, to maintain your life so as when day by day your toothbrush is in a brand new zip code.”

In 2004, Ellefson filed an $18.5-million lawsuit towards Mustaine, alleging the frontman shortchanged him on income and backed out of a deal to show Megadeth Inc. over to him when the band broke up in 2002. The lawsuit was finally dismissed and Ellefson rejoined MEGADETH in 2010.

Ellefson was in MEGADETH from the band’s inception in 1983 to 2002, and once more from 2010 till his newest exit.

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