Max Cavalera (SEPULTURA, SOULFLY, CAVALERA CONSPIRACY) was a visitor on a latest episode of the “Hardcore Humanism With Dr. Mike” podcast. Throughout his dialog with scientific psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman, Max talked about dealing with poverty as a toddler in Brazil when his father died, about his DIY strategy to beginning his music profession along with his brother, former SEPULTURA drummer Igor Cavalera, his struggles with substance abuse and the way his ardour for music helped him to get sober.
Talking about how he lastly obtained clear after fighting substance abuse for years, Max mentioned (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): “My path to straight edge is type of a weird one, as a result of I used to be a complete wildman. Coming from Brazil, I’ve some tales. I bear in mind one time we performed fucking Manaus — that is within the rain forest within the Amazon — and I did the very best coke you can most likely do. After the present, this man confirmed up with the purest Bolivian white powder. I did a shitload of that. I used to be up all evening. I ended up going to the rooftop of the constructing and I sang the complete ‘Beneath The Stays’ [SEPULTURA album], air guitaring on my own on the rooftop of the constructing and I watched the solar come up — tremendous excessive on fucking cocaine. It was a tremendous expertise, man. Perhaps the cocaine was simply good. I do not know. But it surely was a tremendous expertise. And I had some many interactions like that all through my life.
“My brother was straight edge, however he by no means tried to get me to go straight edge,” Max continued. “It is type of unhappy in a approach, however [he has said in the past], ‘I could not drink as a result of I needed to deal with him. If we’d each drink, we’d each be useless. If we’d each get fucked up, we’re simply gonna die collectively. So I needed to be a bit bit extra accountable and never drink so I can take care a bit little bit of him.’ After which as soon as he obtained married, he handed that torch to my spouse: ‘You cope with him now. Now that is your job.’ And there was a few years of struggling as a result of I used to be laborious to cope with, with that shit. Some epic tales. All of the shit, it is all true. Partying with MINISTRY and puking on Eddie Vedder, that occurred. It is fucked up and it is insane, but it surely did occur.
“Little by little, I used to be getting older. And I hated hangovers, man. If they’d have invented a drugs for hangovers, I most likely would by no means cease ingesting ‘trigger I like the thrill. However I hated hangovers; it was fucking laborious to cope with hangovers. So to cope with hangovers, I might take painkillers throughout the day. ‘Trigger that killed the hangover instantly and also you get some type of a excessive going once more.”
In keeping with Max, “one of many ultimate straws” that made him resolve he needed to change his life was a very “loopy” incident on the highway.
“[We were on] some European tour and I wished to drink actual unhealthy and there was nothing on the bus to drink,” he recalled. “I ended up going to the lavatory and ingesting hand cleaning soap, liquid hand cleaning soap. I obtained busted doing that. My spouse opened the door, and I’ve obtained the entire jug of hand sanitizer. She was, like, ‘What the fuck are you doing?’ I [was], like, ‘I am ingesting hand sanitizer. I need assistance.’ It was a type of loopy moments.
“Little by little, I went by means of the totally different phases of to cease ingesting, cease taking medicine,” Max added. “One of many essential ones was really going to a spot, going to a facility. It’s extremely cliché, however I feel it does [help].
“All people is totally different. Some individuals can do it on their very own; they’ve that willpower. I actually could not; I did not have that a lot willpower. So I went to a spot. I used to be there six to eight months. It was in Florida. And it was a depressing expertise there, simply studying. They drill that shit in you 24 hours a day within the lessons. I missed my household lots. However due to that, due to lacking my household, being on this place, I type of appeared round and realized what I actually love most. Do I really like getting fucked up and ingesting and doing medicine greater than my household and music. No, I do not suppose so. I actually like music lots and I like my household lots. So it was type of a type of type of moments. After I obtained out of there, I used to be, like, ‘All proper, so…’ I made the choice what my prio… I’ve totally different priorities. It is again to my old flame — steel, music. It is so simple as that.
“There was a physician that talked to my spouse,” Max mentioned. “He just about mentioned, ‘If he retains doing what he is doing, he can be useless in a few years. No query about it.’ These issues are eye-opener actuality checks that you just get. I began to place issues in perspective. And I am, like, I labored so laborious my complete life. I made it out of Brazil. The chances had been one in a billion in opposition to [me doing that]. I did all this. And I am throw all this away for fucking medicine and alcohol? No, man. I do not wanna do this. But it surely is laborious.
“I am most likely an addict by nature, so it is most likely simply dormant, it is most likely simply sleeping. I am not completely cured. It is there, and at all times can be there.”
Final month, Max and Igor kicked off the 2022 “Return Beneath Come up” tour on the Sunshine Theater in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The trek sees them performing choose tracks from SEPULTURA‘s seminal “Beneath The Stays” and “Come up” albums. Becoming a member of Max and Igor on the tour are Mike Leon of SOULFLY and Daniel Gonzalez of POSSESSED.
In 1996, Max exited SEPULTURA after the remainder of the band cut up along with his spouse Gloria as their supervisor.